I started watching MSNBC again since they started full force after the birthers. I had truly forgotten what sexist pigs they have on and how “Mommy” and Tamron Hall sit there and say nothing. Larry O’Donnell, who professed his love for Sarah Palin after seeing her on SNL, now finds her mentally deficient. [She didn't acknowledge him at SNL.] He and Barnicle are pigs. And Donny Deutsch(bag)’s in the sty next to them. I watched only one segment with him and he tackled both Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton in relation to Maureen Dowd’s blog post, which compared the two. Wonder whose blog she’s ripped off lately? She was on Willie’s new show this morning and Larry has a 6th grade job about her. Sorta what goes around comes around.
MIKA in reference to Larry. (Shattner, totally blotto, performed Palin’s farewell address as poetry. Whatever Shattner has – he’s got too. [Laughs]
BARNICLE: He’s been up all night.
Larry looks like it. Why does he seem to be growing more hair?
GEIST: Crazy Larry’s out today.
LARRY: You know what? I saw my first early, early morning with Willie Geist or whatever his name is.
GEIST: It’s “Way too Early”, pal.
LARRY: This is what I didn’t know. I’m telling you – this is how you promo this show. The promo of the show is: “We get more endowed in bed.”
Barnicle looks at Geist – they’re sitting right up next to each other as usual. Willie Geist would make a lovely transvestite, wouldn’t he?
LARRY: I didn’t know you did that on this show. I would have set my alarm if I knew….
MOMMY: Wow.
GEIST: I’m not going to go there, Lawrence. I was grateful that Maureen [Dowd] was kind enough to come on the show this morning.
Mommy laughs.
GEIST: Let’s go to weather, Mika. How about that?
Willie wants folks to come on his show.
LARRY: It was Maureen’s first use of her bedroom voice on national TV.
MOMMY: Ooooooooh. We’re gonna play a little of that later.
ODONNELL: Please play more.
GEIST: Can we have him removed from the set?
MOMMY: I’m serious. It’s nine minutes past the hour.
BARNICLE: Where’s security?
GESIT We’re on TV right now, do you know that?
BARNICLE: Louis!
MOMMY: Seriously.
BARNICLE: Get Louis over here to have Lawrence taken out off the set!
GESIT: Clear the set.
MOMMY: Alright. Lawrence? [Clears her voice.] We’re gonna go to weather now, thank you. [Makes face]
BILL the weatherman: Wow.
MOMMY: Yeah.
Sends it upstairs to the weatherman.
BILL: Lawrence is making the rest of us look like choirboys. I like this. This is good. Like I’m sane.
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It was not blurted. It was fully intentional. He says it later as well. And he sits there smirking in to the camera.
Not exactly sure how she meant this.
After the weather segment, Mommy says: Let’s get beyond the Gates story. [Somewhat under her breath looking at Larry.] I don’t know what Lawrence might say.
Mike Barnicle really is clueless. He of the Hillary reminds everyone of their first wife standing outside probate court comment. See his lack of spine hosting Mike Rogers vs Rev Rivers. courtesy of SwimmingPolarBear
BARNICLE: If you took Cambridge MA, Georgetown DC, the Upper West Side of NY, Santa Monica and San Francisco, CA out of the Rick Warren debate... There would be no debate. Do you agree with that?
BERNARD: [Laughs.] That is actually very true....
BARNICLE: [Derisively] Well. We're all going to get together over Rick Warren.
Barnicle, Rev Rivers and Mike Rogers are discussing barry's choice of Rick Warren and the impact on the LGBT community. Where is Keith Boykin hiding? How Warren is a divisive figure politically with his opposition to Prop 8 and the misinformation he promulgated. Rev Rivers thinks it's just a "pseudo-controversy". Listen to the righteous indignation in his voice and how he talks over Mike Rogers. His loud defensiveness and dismissive body language gives him away. He does not like gay folks. Why is there an extra stigma in the black "community" - especially for men? Mr Rogers sits there calmly explaining his position. Really quite remarkable. Kudos. I would have enjoyed watching him handle barama matthews.
BARNICLE: What bothers you about Barack Obama inviting Rick Warren?
ROGERS:...In picking Rick Warren, [barry] picked somebody who has basically used gays in the cultural war by attacking gay relationships in the Prop 8 battle. And I think he was a bad choice, not again because of his religious beliefs, but because of his political activity. I think that the community has a right and in fact mandate and a need to stand up and object to theat behavior.
He mentions how Saddleback's website has toned down the previous openly homophobic language -- like Wright's did and barry did after Wright, Pfleger, New Black Panther Party...
BARNICLE: We're already making progress here. Rev Rivers, isn't tolerance a larger issue here than Mr Warren's appearance at the Inauguration?
RIVERS: Oh, absolutely! I think this is basically a pseudo-controversy that's been fabricated by the sorta anti-religious left. [Then he goes a'ranting - loud and angry.]...Anyone that has actually does their homework and researches what Rick in fact does...
BARNICLE: Gene, are you saying that Mr Rogers hasn't done his homework?
RIVERS: Obviously! Listen! Point of fact--
Slaps his hand in his palm (3:30) and talks louder and louder and continues talking over Rogers. Barnicle can't host a show. Eventually he lets Rogers speak but Rivers speaks over him again.
ROGERS: ...where you are forced to come on and defend Rick Warren- the very fact that this argument is happening shows the power if the gay community...
RIVERS (4:11) laughs dismissively, shrugs and turns his head to the right. Power, yeah right...who cares. This sure reveals a lot about him. He goes beyond defending warren and barry - he shows his obvious disdain for the gay community. And he does so freely without any attempt to hide it. I've watched him a lot of times starting when he came out against wright and was pist at barry - but this is the most agitated I've seen him.
Now this is absolutely ridiculous. Barnicle has spent the last two years referring to the African American *community*. They don't listen to their guests and it's clear not even to themselves. Don't they ever get embarrassed by their lunacy?
BARNICLE: Hey, Mr Rogers, let me ask you a question. You just referred in your response to - you used the phrase *my community*. What do you mean by my community? Aren't we all part of the one community in this country? Or ought we not to be part of one community?
RIVERS: Amen!
Amen is right. How many times have we hear Rev Rivers say that white America doesn't understand the black community? That wright isn't so bad because whites just don't understand black churches. And what barry's election is doing for the black community - African American if you like. Why don't these folks listen to themselves?
Rogers then makes his point that the gay community hasn't changed - but Warren has because he was confronted.
RIVERS: Mr Rogers. Listen! Mr Rogers, if YOU are happy and feel better, president-elect Obama, Rick Warrren and myself are happy. It's a great advent experience. If you're feeling better that's a good thing. Issue resolved!
What can you say to this? He interjects himself and puts himself on par with barry and Warren.
ROGERS: I think it is an improvement. What I would like to see, and I'd like to hear you agree with it, is that Rick Warren convenes and sits down, again, behind closed doors, none of the showmanship up on the stage, and trotting everybody out. But sits down with the leadership of our community--the gay leadership--and says I'd like to build a bridge. Sit down with the Human Rights Campaign, sit down with National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Religious Roundtable and show me that your speech is really about reaching out and that it's really about uniting America. And if you can't sit down, and have those meetings with the community, then I think that really shows what you're really about.
RIVERS: Uhm, it would be presumptuous of you to suggest that if Reverend Warren doesn't sit down with your particular CREW [He sits forward and shakes his body in a dismissive manner], that somehow that's an act of bad faith. That's a political trick.
Imagine the black community being referred to as a "particular crew". Never happen. Nothing is taken seriously but race.
ROGERS: If Rev Rick Warren is a so-called leader in the evangelical movement who represents the evangelical movement on a national level--
RIVERS: White evangelical.
ROGERS:...certainly it's appropriate for him to sit down with the national leaders of the gay and lesbian movement -- let's not parse the exact phrases-
BARNICLE: We've got to wrap it up there.
RIVERS: We're all happy now! [laughs]
BARNICLE: We're all happy now.
Yeah because they did their bit. What are the chances warren is going to have such a meeting? And what's the likelihood of the proobamedia making sure it happens and Rev Rivers is there?
They're are talking about the campaigns - extolling the greatness of barry's campaign. He outspent and outraised Senator Clinton and they both got the same amount of votes. He out spent her in PA and she won by 10 points. He won 11 in a row and couldn't get the required amount of delegates. He never beat her. He was handed the nomination. Period.
BUCHANAN: [Sen Clinton] had one of the greatest comebacks I've ever seen in politics.
MIKA: Yeah, that was something.
BUCHANAN: April and May she's pounding that guy. [He looks at Watson] You're smiling now. You weren't smiling then.
CARLSON WATSON: Here's the truth and I hate to say this outloud. Her husband, I believe, loves her death. I think her husband wanted her to win - but I think if Bill hadn't done what he did in South Carolina, that comeback could have been complete.
And here's the greater truth. barry's camp went into South Carolina with a memo made up painting Sen Clinton as a racist. All set and ready to go before Mr Bill or anyone else said a thing. Their race-baiting strategy was going full force. He needed to get the black vote behind him and how better than to paint his opponent as a racist? How many you are aware of the memo? How about Mr Bill's actual statements and what lead up to them? What about Rev Jackson's comments that he was not offended and did not read anything into them?
It's all so tiresome and not worth going into. I'll find the links to the old posts.
July 21, 2008 Morning Joe Tiki Barber, Mike Barnicle, Dan Rather, Mika
They're discussing Jesse Jackson's castration comments. video courtesy of tikarules
TIKI: In a different respect - you've been in the news business a long time. I want your take on this Jesse Jackson issue. First, on what he said. But secondly, and I think more importantly, the fact that it was released - because he was off-air. This wasn't something that was for broadcast. What's your opinion on that?
DAN RATHER: Well, these days with the 24 hour news cycles, you can never assume that anything is off-air or off the record. You have to - anything you say, you have to be prepared for it being on the front page of tomorrow's paper after it's been on cable television. With Jesse Jackson-I recognize this is not popular said to alot of people-I have a great respect for Jesse Jackson. That he was important figure in paving the way for an Osama bin Laden to appear. But this is one of those things, I think, that by the time we get to the convention nobody's going to remember it - it doesn't count for very much.
