O’Donnell: “We get more endowed in bed”

July 29, 2009

I started watching MSNBC again since they started full force after the birthers. I had truly forgotten what sexist pigs they have on and how “Mommy” and Tamron Hall sit there and say nothing. Larry O’Donnell, who professed his love for Sarah Palin after seeing her on SNL, now finds her mentally deficient. [She didn't acknowledge him at SNL.] He and Barnicle are pigs. And Donny Deutsch(bag)’s in the sty next to them. I watched only one segment with him and he tackled both Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton in relation to Maureen Dowd’s blog post, which compared the two. Wonder whose blog she’s ripped off lately? She was on Willie’s new show this morning and Larry has a 6th grade job about her. Sorta what goes around comes around.

MIKA in reference to Larry. (Shattner, totally blotto, performed Palin’s farewell address as poetry. Whatever Shattner has – he’s got too. [Laughs]

BARNICLE: He’s been up all night.

Larry looks like it. Why does he seem to be growing more hair?

GEIST: Crazy Larry’s out today.

LARRY: You know what? I saw my first early, early morning with Willie Geist or whatever his name is.

GEIST: It’s “Way too Early”, pal.

LARRY: This is what I didn’t know. I’m telling you – this is how you promo this show. The promo of the show is: “We get more endowed in bed.”

Barnicle looks at Geist – they’re sitting right up next to each other as usual. Willie Geist would make a lovely transvestite, wouldn’t he?

LARRY: I didn’t know you did that on this show. I would have set my alarm if I knew….

MOMMY: Wow.

GEIST: I’m not going to go there, Lawrence. I was grateful that Maureen [Dowd] was kind enough to come on the show this morning.

Mommy laughs.

GEIST: Let’s go to weather, Mika. How about that?

Willie wants folks to come on his show.

LARRY: It was Maureen’s first use of her bedroom voice on national TV.

MOMMY: Ooooooooh. We’re gonna play a little of that later.

ODONNELL: Please play more.

GEIST: Can we have him removed from the set?

MOMMY: I’m serious. It’s nine minutes past the hour.

BARNICLE: Where’s security?

GESIT We’re on TV right now, do you know that?

BARNICLE: Louis!

MOMMY: Seriously.

BARNICLE: Get Louis over here to have Lawrence taken out off the set!

GESIT: Clear the set.

MOMMY: Alright. Lawrence? [Clears her voice.] We’re gonna go to weather now, thank you. [Makes face]

BILL the weatherman: Wow.

MOMMY: Yeah.

Sends it upstairs to the weatherman.

BILL: Lawrence is making the rest of us look like choirboys. I like this. This is good. Like I’m sane.

***

It was not blurted. It was fully intentional. He says it later as well. And he sits there smirking in to the camera.

Not exactly sure how she meant this.

After the weather segment, Mommy says: Let’s get beyond the Gates story. [Somewhat under her breath looking at Larry.] I don’t know what Lawrence might say.

BARNICLE: Talk fast.

Deutsch: “Hillary being 68 with no problem with a man”

July 29, 2009

Donny Deutsch(bag) continues his sexist parade. It’s clear he has no idea how transparent he is and Tamron Hall is well, Tamron Hall.

After he got done saying that Palin “doesn’t seem to be a complete media whore” he brings up Mo Dowd’s column where she compares Gov Palin to Secretary Clinton.

For the record: there is no one like Hillary Clinton – nor will there ever be. No one – man or woman – is as knowledgeable and prepared as she is – most assuredly not barry. And Clinton runs rings around him as far as presidential bearing. The closest Gov Palin gets to Secretary Clinton is they both have XX chromosomes and both are mothers.

Deutsch’s body language reflects his coarseness. When he talks about both women he makes big gestures in the manner men make pantomiming women with big breasts and of course he has to take on an affected voice. Freud would get a good chuckle.

His take on the two women (his emphasis):

How a few years ago Hillary was seen as [big breast gesture] the paranoid woman, the victim and she was on David Gregory’s Show Meet the Press for an hour as so statesmanly, so in command as Secretary of State and now Palin has taken on the role [affected voice] of the chirpy ‘you’re doing this to me, you’re doing this to me’.

His theory: (emphasis mine)

I don’t know if that’s a) we need to take somebody down first like we’ve taken Hillary down over the years, before we get her up. Or the difference between one woman who is qualified and one woman who is completely unqualified. And Maureen Dowd pointed out that somebody else said that we wouldn’t be talking about her if she looked like Golda Meir.

Throaty growling: Ha-ha-ha.

They never took “Hillary” down and they certainly didn’t “get her up”. They’ve tried to destroy her for over two decades and she has withstood, excelled and prevailed despite their gyne envy and castration anxiety.

About “fantasy politics” and a possible “face off” in 2016: Sarah vs Hillary.

I like that – that would be fun….That would be television.

And then this. I can’t even describe what he meant (emphasis mine):

And it would be interesting to your point – the sexist thing in reverse – Hillary being 68 with no problem with a man.

WTH?

He continues, thinking he’s solved the mystery to women in politics – they have to be old and haggardly.

Well some people obviously have age issues there. Be interesting to see how it would play. Although when you look at some of the great world leaders – the Gold Meirs, the Margaret Thatchers that maybe that’s what a woman [he pokes his index finger forward] needs. Strangely, enough. Interestingly, enough.

Verbatim, folks. The poking gesture perfectly clear also.

Deutsch: “[Palin] doesn’t seem to be a complete media whore”

July 29, 2009

MSNBC continues their fascination with all things Sarah Palin. They talked with bowtie-wearing David Hawkings of CQ Politics, who can offer an opinion when he didn’t even know how many children she has and called Trig Palin a “toddler”.

Some of her fans on the socially conservative right think she should be genuinely taking care of her toddler son who has Down Syndrome and probably some of her detractors on the left [laugh] think she should stay in her house and never be seen in the public eye again.

Donny Deutsch(bag) goes one further. He claps when he reads the poll – only 6% thought she should run for president. Then he says she is going to go into radio because she isn’t ready for TV right now because “it’s too much of a jump”. Then he says:

She doesn’t seem to be a complete media whore.

Like him? Sitting there with his face all aglow speculating what it would be like if barry wore tight jeans and smiling at Mika “Mommy” Brzezinski?

His next installment: “Hillary being 68 with no problem with a man”

Letterman: “our goal is to put a man on Sonia Sotomayor”

July 16, 2009

Yep. He’s still a pig. And the way he laughed and smiled he knew he was going to get away with it. And he has. I was looking for a video and didn’t even see any comments on the “joke”.

He was talking about the upcoming anniversary of the small step and giant leap and he said:

It’s been forty years since we put a man on the moon — now our goal is to put a man on Sonia Sotomayor.

He’s basically calling Judge Sotomayor a lesbian. She doesn’t have a shrill voice or cackle and he has to be careful about race jokes so he attacks her sexuality – just like he does with every woman. He has major issues. Especially with powerful women. He never refers to them by their titles. Ever heard him say Barack? And how many times have you heard “Hillary” and “Sarah” and even just Michelle?

How often did dave joke about Justice Souter’s sexuality or lack there of? And he had Anderson Cooper on as a guest – did he make any gay jokes about him?

No. He talked about Bernie Madoff’s “butt boy”.

Bernie Madoff – well his accountant, his little buddy, his little butt boy — what did I say? Did I say butt boy? I’m sorry. That’s how we get those Emmy nominations.

And what was actually funny wasn’t intended as such. I’m glad I found a video because it’s easier to see cooper’s body language than describe it. The meaning is clear.

Superwerko

Cooper was there hyping his interview with barry in Ghana. First 30 seconds of the video

dave says: Help me out here. I think I know what this is –”President Obama’s African Journey” – first trip back to his HOMELAND since he’s been president. Is that correct?

Cooper smiles: TECHNICALLY, his homeland is America.

dave: His ancestral home.

Cooper laughs: He was born in America.

Then he smiles, shakes his head and pulls on his collar, proving he knows the birth certificate is a real issue.

And why do you suppose he didn’t specify Hawaii?

Letterman monologue re: Judge Sotomayor

July 14, 2009

Letterman – Gov Palin post

The old standby of female politician shrillness isn’t going work with Judge Sotomayor.

So she’s ugly:

Had the place going crazy…right off the bat she opens up with I Dreamed a Dream.

A reference to Britain’s Got Talent’s Susan Boyle.

He smiles and laughs.

And then it’s that –

When everyone settled down Clarence Thomas sent over a mojito.

And then a weird video clip with Lindsay Graham.

After watching him more than a few times since his disgusting Palin daughter “jokes” I don’t get how he is supposed to be funny.

Take away the 6th Grade, ageist and sexist/sexual objectivication of women “jokes” and there’s what?

Judge Sotomayor opening statements (video/text)

July 13, 2009

Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s opening statements – Day 1 Senate confirmation Hearings.

Sotomayor’s background. Video/text of announcement of nomination.

VIDEO of statement: Politico44

Also noted at Politico: Norma McCorvey aka Jane Roe [as in Roe v Wade] was one of four people arrested for “shouting anti-abortion slogans”. Wonder of Fr Weslin was there too. Have to do a follow up on Notre Dame.

TRANSCRIPT of statement: The Washington Post

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SEN PATRICK LEAHY (D-VT): Judge, now we will administer the oath, and I’ll let the two senators step back, if they’d like, if we can. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony you are about to give before the committee will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

SOTOMAYOR: I do.

LEAHY: Thank you. Please be seated. And I thank my two colleagues from New York for the introduction. And I — I appreciated it, because I know both have known you for some time. Judge, you’ve also introduced a number — members of your family. And now the floor is yours.

SOTOMAYOR:

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I also want to thank Senators Schumer and Gillibrand for their kind introductions.

In recent weeks, I have had the privilege and pleasure of meeting 89 senators, including all of the members of this committee. Each of you has been gracious to me, and I have so much enjoyed meeting you. Our meetings have given me an illuminating tour of the 50 states and invaluable insights into the American people.

There are countless family members and friends who have done so much over the years to make this day possible. I am deeply appreciative for their love and support. I want to make one special note of thanks to my mother. I am here, as many of you have noted, because of her aspirations and sacrifices for both my brother, Juan, and me.

Mom, thank you.

I am very grateful to the president and humbled to be here today as a nominee to the United States Supreme Court.

The progression of my life has been uniquely American. My parents left Puerto Rico during World War II. I grew up in modest circumstances in a Bronx housing project. My father, a factory worker with a third-grade education, passed away when I was 9 years old.

On her own, my mother raised my brother and me. She taught us that the key to success in America is a good education. And she set the example, studying alongside my brother and me at our kitchen table so that she could become a registered nurse.

We worked hard. I poured myself into my studies at Cardinal Spellman High School, earning scholarships to Princeton University and then Yale Law School, while my brother went on to medical school. Our achievements are due to the values that we learned as children, and they have continued to guide my life’s endeavors. I try to pass on this legacy by serving as a mentor and friend to my many godchildren and to students of all backgrounds.

Over the past three decades, I have seen our judicial system from a number of different perspectives — as a big-city prosecutor, as a corporate litigator, as a trial judge, and as an appellate judge. My first job after law school was as an assistant district attorney in New York.

There I saw children exploited and abused. I felt the pain and suffering of families torn apart by the needless death of loved ones. I saw and learned the tough job law enforcement has in protecting the public.

In my next legal job, I focused on commercial instead of criminal matters. I litigated issues on behalf of national and international businesses and advised them on matters ranging from contracts to trademarks.

My career as an advocate ended, and my career as a judge began, when I was appointed by President George H.W. Bush to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. As a trial judge, I did decide over 450 cases and presided over dozens of trials, with perhaps my most famous case being the Major League Baseball strike in 1995.

After six extraordinary years on the district court, I was appointed by President Clinton to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. On that court, I have enjoyed the benefit of sharing ideas and perspectives with wonderful colleagues as we have worked together to resolve the issues before us.

I have now served as an appellate judge for over a decade, deciding a wide range of constitutional, statutory and other legal questions. Throughout my 17 years on the bench, I have witnessed the human consequences of my decisions. Those decisions have not been made to serve the interests of any one litigant, but always to serve the larger interests of impartial justice.

In the past month, many senators have asked me about my judicial philosophy. Simple: fidelity to the law. The task of a judge is not to make law. It is to apply the law.

And it is clear, I believe, that my record in two courts reflects my rigorous commitment to interpreting the constitution according to its terms, interpreting statutes according to their terms and Congress’s intent, and hewing faithfully to precedents established by the Supreme Court and by my circuit court.

In each case I have heard, I have applied the law to the facts at hand. The process of judging is enhanced when the arguments and concerns of the parties to the litigation are understood and acknowledged.

That is why I generally structure my opinions by setting out what the law requires and then explaining why a contrary position, sympathetic or not, is accepted or rejected. That is how I seek to strengthen both the rule of law and faith in the impartiality of our judicial system. My personal and professional experiences helped me to listen and understand, with the law always commanding the result in every case.

Since President Obama announced my nomination in May, I have received letters from people all over this country. Many tell a unique story of hope in spite of struggle. Each letter has deeply touched me. Each reflects a dream — a belief in the dream that led my parents to come to New York all those years ago. It is our Constitution that makes that dream possible, and I now seek the honor of upholding the Constitution as a justice on the Supreme Court.

Senators, I look forward in the next few days to answering your questions, to having the American people learn more about me, and to being part of a process that reflects the greatness of our Constitution and of our nation.

Thank you all.

More Dave monologue re: Palin

Letterman – Gov Palin posts

Selected bits from dave’s intelligent monologues:

Standard:

President Obama is meeting with Putin and John McCain is in Arizona chasing kids off his lawn.

Standard:

Pres Obama is in Russia and today he waved to Sarah Palin.

The Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has announced that she is stepping down as Governor and she went out on her porch and waved goodbye to Russia.

Are these funny?

People ask what she’s going to do and insiders say she is going to be the next octomom.

She’ll take the summer off and then we’ll come back next fall in the 10:00 slot.

Standard:

She said, before she decided to quit that she called Dick Chaney…because when you want some advice on strategic maneuvers, you go to the architect of the Iraq War.

Standard about himself:

Governor Palin’s friends say she is resigning because she is tired of attacks from the media…thank God I didn’t say anything.

Looks like she may be getting her own television show…I don’t know she seems kind of camera shy.

Sarah if you’re watching…if you get a TV show you got to be careful with what you say on the air because you can get yourself in a lot of trouble.

Not the usual protesters at the G8

Well there was one firedave rally.

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In case you didn’t hear Sen John Kerry’s “humor”. He was reportedly talking to a group and mentioned that Gov Mark Sanford had disappeared for days and then added:

Too bad. If a governor had to go missing it couldn’t have been the governor of Alaska. You know, Sarah Palin.

Letterman monologue re: Palin (video)

July 6, 2009

Letterman – Gov Palin posts

Letterman has to be as pist as Jack Cafferty that Gov Palin is retiring from the scene. If she retires from public life for a length of time he won’t be able to justify his attacks – doesn’t mean that will stop him. Here’s a little predictable Dave “humor” without his most intellectually challenging “jokes” involving demeaning sex acts with minors, crack cocaine transactions or slutty attire.

MultiKrater

Monday’s monologue (6:30):

President Obama is in Russia…

…we know this because Sarah Palin can see him from her house.

As if:

There was a surprising announcement over the weekend, the Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin is leaving the office…

…Something I said?

Call PETA:

She is blaming the media…today she was in a helicopter shooting at Wolf Blitzer.

Predictable:

The title now is Miss Congeniality.

Profound:

The world needs more insane governors.

His audience doesn’t even know who this is:

She is the most attractive VP candidate since Spirow Agnew.

Sexist joke of the day:

Russia needs to produce less warheads and more hot tennis babes.

You ever seen dave’s wife?

Letterman – Gov Palin posts

This post got lost and it looks like quite a few other. I sure wish I knew what happens to them.

June 12, 2009

The list was getting too long to put on each post.

Letterman – Gov Palin posts

June 8
Letterman’s “jokes”

June 9
Gov Palin – John Ziegler radio interview

June 10
Ziegler has at Contessa Brewer
John Ziegler talks with Josh Gibson about Brewer
Gov Palin’s statement
David Letterman’s comment
David Letterman’s non-apology #1

June 11
Gov Palin’s response to Letterman’s non-apology
Concerned Women for America
National Organization of Women
Letterman show – more pathetic sex jokes (not about Palins)
Gov Palin on Today Show tomorrow

June 12
Today Show with Matt Lauer (video/transcript)
“Michelle Obama bought makeup to update her slutty First Lady look”

June 15
Letterman non-apology #2

June 16
Bozell: “Apologize Like a Real Man”
“We’re talking about the governor of Alaska because she’s catnip”
Gov Palin accepts Letterman apology

June 17
Fire David Letterman Rally Pix

(7-6) Letterman monologue re: Palin (video)

(7-7) Letterman Top 10: Palin answering machine

Letterman Top 10: Palin answering machine

Letterman – Gov Palin posts

July 7, 2009

Dave’s intellectual hilarity = McCain, an old doddering fool, Palin, a ditzball one size fits all sex object, George Bush, mandatory.

TOP TEN LIST:

Sarah Palin answering machine

10 – Hi, It’s George W. Bush. Why didn’t anyone tell me resigning was an option?
9 – It’s John McCain — why did I call?
8 – Mark Sanford here. Ever been to Argentina?
7 – I’m calling from Geico to see if you want to renew your dogsled insurance.
6 – It’s Letterman — we still cool?
5 – McCain again. Still no idea why I called.
4 – Hi, it’s the dry cleaner. Having trouble getting caribou blood out of your Prada jacket?
3 – Hi, it’s Sarah…oops…dialed my own number.
2 – Schwarzenegger here. If you want a job, California could use a new governor.
1 – Hey, it’s McCain. Who would’ve thought you’d retire before I did?

Gov Palin: “I am not a quitter”

July 6, 2009

FBI: Palin not under investigation
Gov Palin stepping down July 26th (text)
Gov Palin resigns, July 26th (video)
Official Dem Party blogger alters Trig Palin’s face as “joke”
Cafferty re: Palin “She’s lame…thumb sucker”

Gov Palin’s Facebook:

How sad that Washington and the media will never understand it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling, and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies to decisions I make.

Gov Palin to CNN:

I am not a quitter. I am a fighter.

But she didn’t state anything specific as to her future — just that she would continue in public service.

Gov Plain’s Lawyer, THOMAS VAN FLEIN:

There is no bombshell. There is no shoe to drop. There are no investigations of any type that I’m aware of — no IRS audit, no federal investigation, no state investigation. There is no legal reason in terms of a legal problem that compelled the governor to resign.

Gov Palin picked Friday on purpose:

She declared her independence from “politics as usual”.

His take on last fall:

In my opinion, she was the national campaign for Republicans last fall. I know John McCain was the candidate, but the decision was really about Sarah Palin and could she take on Obama. That was a lot of weight on her shoulders to carry that campaign, and they almost pulled it off.

Letterman’s disgusting “jokes” factored into Palin’s decision.

When people don’t accept normal bounds of decency making jokes like that about children, maybe this is not good for the state right now. And maybe somebody else who is not the subject, and whose family is not the subject of this scrutiny, can move the state forward.

Cafferty re: Palin “She’s lame…thumb sucker”

July 6, 2009

JACK CAFFERTY is a very small hateful man.

His words re: Gov Palin:

She kind of outfoxed all the media.

Palin, who was thrust onto the national stage as John McCain’s running mate against President Obama, defended her decision as a move to avoid becoming a lame duck.

Love her or hate her, Sarah Palin is able — she’s already lame.

I will miss Governor Palin for purely selfish reasons. She generates more e-mail than any other single subject on “The Cafferty File.

Well, I don’t know what she’s going to do, but it won’t have the same impact if she doesn’t carry the mantle of governor of Alaska and if she’s not considered any longer a serious contender for a presidential nomination.

She becomes in the vernacular a thumb sucker.

But the woman who thought it was a “joke” to photoshop out Trig Palin’s face is in a category all by herself.

Gov Palin stepping down July 26th (text)
Gov Palin resigns, July 26th (video)
FBI: Palin not under investigation

Liddy: “Let’s hope the key conferences aren’t when she’s menstruating”

June 30, 2009 by mattie14

another missing – worth a laugh at two way over the hill irrelevants

June 5, 2009

Out of the mouths of beasts…more gyne envy. It’s so archaic that it he comes off as pathetic. Convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy on his May 28th radio show comments on Judge Sotomayor’s menses — as in the effect PMS would have on her rulings. Hope no one told him that at 55 y/o she is most likely peri- or post-menopausal–meaning the mind-altering symptoms can arrive not just once a month! but at any time! and potentially affect every ruling! Not to mention the mood swings brought on by fluctuating blood sugar levels from insulin-dependent diabetes.

Think he owns a red Porsche?

THINKPROGRESS

And right after Liddy–he sounds like he is a tad short of neurons–makes a grossly sexist statement about menstruating:

Let’s hope that the key conferences aren’t when she’s menstruating or something — or just before she’s going to menstruate. That would really be bad. Lord knows what we would get then.

…the other caveman voice says:

This is deeper though than just sexism and racism or whatever. And it’s way deeer than liberal or conservative. She is the one whose bringing all these things in.

Official Dem Party blogger alters Trig Palin’s face as “joke”

June 25, 2009

There really is no end to the classlessness bots are capable of. Since they can’t go after Secretary Clinton because she’s doing a job barry couldn’t even begin to attempt – a job they ridiculed her qualifications for – it’s Gov Palin and her family. From slutty crack ho mom to incesting dad to teenage daughter whores to the most innocent of souls – Trig. Thinking it’s a “joke” to make fun of an infant with Down Syndrome by changing his face.

What kind of person – a woman no less – even thinks of something like that? And how lacking in morals does one have to be to be so proud of ones depraved thoughts that they share it with the entire planet? And these people are inspired by barry. A link to her site is posted on the official Alaska Democratic Party website. So if she isn’t being paid directly by the Democratic Party – she is at the very least officially endorsed by them. Hence the request for barry to get his party in line.

CELTIC DIVA’S BLUE OASIS

Folks need to see what they are capable of and explaining it is not the same as seeing it but it will not stay here for long. The original photo was shot by Reuters. I hope they go after her somehow. It’s the only way they will be stopped.

Proud artwork courtesy liberal Alaskan Blogger LINDA KELLEN BIEGEL, who is so proud of her work she removed it. Note that she was using the pix as a way to raise money.

(REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton)

Caption: Republican vice presidential candidate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin hugs her son Trig onstage after her address to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota September 3, 2008.

Palin spokeswoman MEGHAN STAPLETON:

Recently we learned of a malicious desecration of a photo of the Governor and baby Trig that has become an iconic representation of a mother’s love for a special needs child. The mere idea of someone doctoring the photo of a special needs baby is appalling.

Babies and children are off limits. It is past time to restore decency in politics and real tolerance for all Americans. The Obama Administration sets the moral compass for its party. We ask that special needs children be loved, respected and accepted and that this type of degeneracy be condemned.

Were barry’s children used in any fashion by anyone other than their parents? And if this a picture of Malia with Chris Matthews face what would these folks be screaming? Here’s an example of the comments at CNN, confirming the character of obamafans – one going so far as to actually write “special needs card”.

that is one of the funniest pictures ever….keep at her!

With all due respect to Mrs. Palin and anyone offended by this pic. GET OVER IT ALREADY!

(Iowa liberal) Sarah, quit trotting out the “special needs” card.

his picture is not offensive.

(Kimberley in CA) Of course. It’s been a week now, time to get her name back in the news.

(Independent voter) no, what’s appalling is palin’s constant whinning and complaining over trivial stuff!

I don’t see a special needs child in the picture, she’s tossing that out there for spin.

(Harvey for Obama) One word Palin, lighten up.

(Robert Austin, Texas) I think it has become apparent that Palin has become a “special needs” adult.

It’s about time for the Wasilla Imbecilla to stop playing the victim.

That baby has special needs, alright. He needs a new mother.

The photo is funny and the point is well taken.

M. Bellew-Smith So, he’s special needs. You had him. Keep him home and stop inflicting him on us and us on him.

Clarification re: Sen Boxer & Brig Gen Walsh

June 23, 2009

Hi Chris.

I decided to put this out here because of the vile nature of the other comments we have gotten. Many folks had the same questions/comments but yours were the only postable ones. Hopefully answering your questions will answer theirs and stop the hate. Relevant posts.

Sen Boxer & Brig Gen Walsh exchange
And if the General was called Mister?

Thank you for your thoughts.

There was only one thing that truly bothered me about what you wrote, which I think was a simple misunderstanding. I appreciate not only the time your took to make your comments, but also that they were free of blatantly sexist remarks. Your personal beliefs and attitudes toward men and women and their respective worth – inherent and earned – are your own and I respect them.

I would like to clarify some things – using your own quotes – in an effort to promote further understanding. It got kind of long because I was trying to address as many questions at once so if nothing else please skip down to the bottom to “This is what bothered me” and read just that. Thanks.

You go out of your way to refer to a man who has defended YOUR freedom to speak as mister

The precise point of the post. Although it seems the point was taken in only one direction.

The General no matter how you feel about him politically has in fact earned his title.

And the Senator no matter how you feel about her personally has in fact earned her title.

Even if the writer discounts her “earning” it or “her worthiness of said title”.

One cannot begin to compare their career paths — the second point.

His career choice has led him down roads that Sen. Boxer wouldn’t dream of traveling, and he deserves the respect that comes with that rank.

You’re absolutely right. She wouldn’t have…because it would have been pointless. The military as a career choice was an absolute impossibility just as motherhood is for Brig Gen Walsh. No matter what dreams, desires, skills, natural aptitude, military connections or physical abilities, Sen Boxer could not have earned the title of general by leading soldiers in to battle.

Though the statement itself reveals a great deal about what the writer (and society in general) considers to be a “worthy” career and how the career itself dictates the absolute level of respect afforded. That the title of “General” carries with it more inherent respect than “Senator” or even “Mother”. That even the most disrespectful General would be more worthy of respect than the most respected Senator.

No logical argument can be derived from the absolute comparison of their respective careers since his career was not even an option. They can only be assessed relatively in regards to the absolute standards of their separate careers, which, for both, arose from the same desire to serve their country — the ultimate position attainable for both (as yet, only in theory), Commander in Chief.

Sen Boxer cannot be judged as a father and Brig Gen Walsh cannot be judged as a mother, but they can be judged relatively as parents.

You still insist that a General is more deserving of respect than a Senator?

Who is more intrinsically worthy: a mother or a male general?

A mother who can give birth to more than one general or a single male general?

Is a female general, who is also a mother, more worthy of respect than a male general, because she is capable of doing things he wouldn’t dream of doing? Things, that for him, are an absolute impossibility?

A male general, no matter how exemplary his service and no matter how many soldiers he has lead into battle – or more importantly, out of battle – will never be a mother, be never be worthy of being a mother and will never earn the respect of actually being a mother.

So does that mean he is not capable of being respected equally for what he does do and is capable of doing?

Using the writer’s logic, a man of any occupation, no matter what he dreamt or didn’t dream, is not capable of being a mother, and thus, less inherently worthy of respect as the female general. And no matter what title he is assigned, he did not “earn” it the way she did.

And to extend the argument to conclusion?

Men can become generals but can never become mothers. They can never achieve that title — they can never earn that title. They can dream and dream all they like and never come close.

But women are not only capable of being mothers and generals – they can give birth to more potential generals.

So are women generals inherently more worthy than a male general, who is only capable of doing one of the three things a female general is capable of?

I don’t think that’s where the writer wanted to head.

So now that it’s clear from both sides that Sen Boxer’s and Brig Gen Walsh’s relevant worthiness of respect cannot be assessed on the basis or comparison of career choices, this borders on ridiculous.

The next point I would like to make is since when is being elected to public service considered working hard towards a title? She won an election, she didn’t become a senator by leading soldiers in battle, nor did she earn her title through exlempary service. She won her title in an election. Winning and earning an award are two entirely different things.

Frankly, those words and the thoughts behind them reflect a sexist ignorance that even with logic cannot be overcome unless it is so chosen.

How is someone who is not in the military — nor could ever be — as in the possibility did not exist — going to earn the respect of her title through exemplary military service? It’s as ludicrous as saying the general did not earn the respect of his title because he has never given birth and/or passed legislation.

If one were to compare them, as the writer has, one could say he is less deserving of respect and really did not “earn” his title because less than 200 people voted to give him the title, as opposed to the almost 7 million votes — the most for any politician — man or woman — in California history — that Sen Boxer received in 2004.

Do 7 million people know Brig Gen Walsh’s name…even now?

How is a politician rewarded for their “exemplary service”?

Re-election.

And no one in the state’s history has received more votes than Sen Boxer.

How is a soldier rewarded for exemplary service?

With medals.

Has Brig Gen Walsh been awarded more medals than any other brigadier general in history?

Is Sen Boxer more worthy of respect because she represents the interests of tens of millions of Americans and he less worthy because he commanded less than 5000 as Commander of Task Force Hope?

Is Sen Boxer worthy of more respect because she is one of only 100 people who have such titles and he’s one of 302 and that’s just in his branch of the service?

Is Sen Boxer more worthy of respect because she has been re-elected three times and he has only earned a measly one star? A star he really didn’t even “earn” because people just voted to give it to him – one of whom was Sen Boxer?

Is Sen Boxer more worthy of respect because she is one of only 27 female senators in all of American history?

Is Brig Gen Walsh one of only 27 anythings?

Senator Boxer earned her title by fighting her own battles – in civilian life – the only place she was afforded the opportunity. She was forbidden from even attempting to “earn” them through military service and the fact the writer mentioned it makes her case even stronger.

Would the writer stand before Senator John McCain, a man of great honor, a man who has selflessly served his country since he was a teenager, a man who more than earned his military awards with five years of captivity and torture, and tell him that he just “won” his title in an election? That he didn’t earn it?

Has the writer read Sen McCain’s words as to how he views his military service in comparison to public service? Which he finds more humbling? More challenging? What he finds to be the greater responsibility?

Would the writer stand before the President and tell him that that title he “won” doesn’t qualify him to be Commander in Chief because he did nothing to “earn” it?

[My answer to that question is the only place in any of this where "politics" would come into play. I believe he is not. I believe he was given his title and did not in any way earn it and he has not even proven he is eligible to hold it. And if I ever had the honor to speak with Brig Gen Walsh - yes, honor - I would not only given him the respect he deserves, I would thank him for his service, and then I would ask him to make his Supreme Commander prove that he has the Constitutional authority to send brave young American volunteers into battle - some to certain death.]

This is what bothered me:

Lastly I see that you feel politicians are worthy as being addressed by their titles and soldiers are not, and that is a battle I will not attempt to win but it does show that the left wing still has no respect for the brave men and women who eat, sleep, live and die to protect the country they love.

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Secondly, no where did I say a politician is worthy of being addressed by their titles and soldiers are not. That flies in the face of the entire argument. I referred to Brig Gen Walsh as “Mister” to illustrate my point – which you got – but only in regard to and in defense of the General. I made very clear my respect and gratitude for the military:

There is no doubt–in my mind at least–that every single servicemember – regardless of gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, political party and whatever else one wants to split themselves into – deserves the utmost respect, as they have volunteered to put their life on the line to defend mine and my freedom.

So your comment was a direct insult to the honor of my father and all five uncles who served in WWII. Since we are clearly on the same side of the issue there – there is no issue – I’ll accept that it simply got missed.

Military protocol is the way it is for reasons, and as a civilian I can not expect you to understand that.

To this day I respond, as my father and mother taught me, “Yes, Ma’am” and “Yes, Sir” – even to people younger than me or in a position of lesser authority. I believe every person deserves that simple respect until they do something to revoke it. But I more strongly believe that people who have earned – yes, earned – their titles deserve to have their efforts acknowledged, which means addressing them by their title. Most particularly women of Sen Boxer’s generation, who preceded affirmative action (unlike the president and first lady) and got where they are on their own merit and despite rampant sexism – which clearly is alive and well.

And I can assure you my father, uncles and six brothers would have addressed Sen Boxer as “Senator” without having to be told. That no matter what happened, they would have spoken up instead of letting her continue to be disrespected on their behalf. And they would have loved to chat with the soldier whose silence caused the Pentagon to have to go on record.

Yes, Brig Gen Walsh’s use of “Ma’am” was well within protocol.

Yes, Sen Boxer had every right to request he address her as “Senator”.

And, yes, Sen Boxer might have phrased her request differently.

But Brig Gen Walsh’s continued silence, knowing how Sen Boxer is being attacked, is a measure of disrespect all on its own, and it does not reflect well on his character. And it makes her point in the shrillest voice possible.

Thanks again. And if you are military yourself – an extra sincere thank you for your service and sacrifice to our country.

And if the General was called Mister?

6-23 Boxer – Walsh clarification

June 21, 2009

The fact this exchange (on video below) was an issue at all proves Sen Boxer’s point. The comments prove that sexism and misogyny are alive and flourishing. And the fact that the GOP is using it to make money proves how desperate and out of touch they are.

bigkurt25

What would have happened if Sen Boxer referred to him as “Mister” instead of “Sir” or “General” while she was sitting in his office on a military base reporting to him ?

There is absolutely no doubt he would have corrected her immediately.

But the most important point?

Sen Boxer would not have had to been told. She would not have had to be corrected. She would have know that his position demands the respect of his title and would have addressed him by it.

He did not.

And from his silence it appears he thinks “Ma’am” is enough.

I get the justification that “Sir” and “Ma’am” is how one is taught in the military – and expected (or else) – to address other military and that it is usually so indoctrinated that non-military are addressed in the same way. But that is not an excuse. Sen Boxer is as deserving of her hard-earned title “Senator” as he is of “General”.

Did you just shake your head?

If so, there’s no need to continue reading.

Mister Walsh is of a certain age – and I would imagine of sufficient intelligence and experience – to know how “Ma-am” comes across to the women of Sen Boxer’s generation. How it is used to denigrate and put “little missy” or “honey” or as barry prefers “sweetie” in her get me some coffee, iron my shirt, just shut up and look pretty place. And he is well aware of how it can be said and in what word order to make it most offensive. And he did exactly that.

How it makes a woman feel cannot be understood by men – no matter how enlightened. But it is something men of that generation understand and are aware they do. And it cannot be completely understood by post Title IX females – even if they took the time to listen to the “whining”. It is something specific to pre-Title IX professional women. And someone not of that demographic will have trouble understanding the nuance of how he said it and why it irritated Sen Boxer. But it is something that Dr Jill Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart would have immediately recognized.

And folks who cannot possibly understand it in the first place are judging Sen Boxer on a 16-second video clip, which was not the initial exchange. No one knows how many times he already referred to her as “Ma’am”, whether he had said it every sentence, what tone he said it in, what order he said it in or what visual hints he missed – or intentionally dismissed – when he said kept saying it. All of these things matter – a great deal. And a woman of any age can take only so many “Ma’ams”. A Ma’am every sentence would drive Emily Post insane.

The Q & A did not just start. Sen Boxer was asking him to defend why something he was responsible for was delayed. Instead of responding with a direct answer – which did not require a “Ma’am” - he started with, uh, and then, Ma’am. Again, why this is insulting cannot be fully explained, and even if it were possible, it wouldn’t be believed unless it was experienced – but it has to do with the fact that he did not give Sen Boxer a straight answer and instead mentioned “Ma’am” — putting her in her place before he deigned to answer. It is a pattern of behavior professional women of that generation are sensitive to – something they have heard over and over and over…and something that is done intentionally.

And to prove Sen Boxer’s point beyond debate, she is being a called a bitch for how she interrupted him and the “shrill” manner in which she said it. There isn’t a single female politician’s voice that doesn’t go uncommented on. Why?

Whose hang up is it if it “reminds them of their mother or first wives”?

What would have happened if Sen Boxer was in his office on the military base defending something that wasn’t finished and instead of directly answering him said, uh, Mister?

He darn well would have cut her off and no doubt it would have been in a stern voice (and a look of physical dominance), but no one would have found that offensive. Just like this would not have been mentioned if it were two men or two women.

As many commenters have said – a general is allowed to do that. But not a senator in the exact situation? That being in the military automatically demands respect – even the lowliest of soldiers. But not a three-term senator? Implying that respect of the military needs only go one way.

And what if was a male senator who said it to a female officer?

Would it have even made it to video clip?

Not a chance. Her superior officers would have given her a dressing down.

And if someone came to her aid?

How many David Letterman jokes would there be? What special words would he have then? Feminazi? A frigid c—? A dyke? Or maybe somebody just needs to slap that bitch up side the head?

There is no doubt–in my mind at least–that every single servicemember – regardless of gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, political party and whatever else one wants to split themselves into – deserves the utmost respect, as they have volunteered to put their life on the line to defend mine and my freedom. But that is extraneous to this – even though the male commenters I have read focus on nothing but.

As I mentioned previous, Mister Walsh of an age that he is aware of the sensitivity – and even more than most because he is military. He knew he was going to Sen Boxer’s office to be asked questions that he would have to defend. He wasn’t going for a chat with a friend. He wasn’t going for a discussion with a colleague. He wasn’t going to hash something out with a fellow officer. And he certainly wasn’t going on a date. He knew that his rank of general would not come into play as far as their exchanges.

Or did he?

Did it ever cross his mind?

Or did he naturally assume he would be in the position of authority and dominance because of his military status even though it was not his office and he was not the one asking the questions?

Did he consider that he would be participating in a defensive fashion, in a public proceeding, the rules of which he would not be as familiar with as the person – the woman – who would be in the position of authority over him?

Is he even capable of having such a thought as a man? As a man of that age? As a member of the military? As a very high-ranking mlitary man?

Did he realize that his rank would mean nothing as far as authority and that Sen Boxer would be dictating the show? That in that situation, Sen Boxer outranked him?

And if he gave it any thought – which I highly doubt – would he have been happy about it?

And as the questioning became more pointed, and he was placed further on the defense by an (attractive – yes matters) woman of his generation - not of equal rank and most definitely not of equal size – with people all around watching the exchange, he wouldn’t – however subconsiously – try to point that out? That the Ma’ams wouldn’t be coming more frequently – especially when Sen Boxer asked him a flat out “why?” and it appeared he didn’t have an answer?

And all that aside – why doesn’t a Brig General know how to show respect to a non-military woman with a title, by referring to her by that title?

“Ma’am” is reflexive - generic. Senator is not. Addressing Sen Boxer by Senator forces him to make that connection – to remind him that she is in the position of authority and he is not – and his not using her title it is a direct dismissal of her authority. And done when Sen Boxer had him on the ropes is nothing other than dismissing that authority.

Again, women who have not been in this powerplay over and over and over cannot understand it. How many female doctors automatically get called nurse? And how many male nurses are automatically called doctor? How many times does a female doctor have to correct the same patient? And how often does the male nurse bother to correct the patient at all?

And folks who cannot understand it think women are bitches with shrill voices who should subjugate themselves to a general because they aren’t “worthy enough to clean the shit off his boots” and shouldn’t be frustrated when he did it for the however many times when she knows exactly why he is doing it and so does he.

And where was this upstanding general in need of respect when Sen Boxer was getting trashed?

Where did this honorable soldier come forth and say chill the hell out I was in her house and should have played by her rules?

His silence proves Sen Boxer’s point with an exclamation point and it is why he is not deserving of any further comment. By not coming forward, he admitted he did it on purpose or at least saw nothing wrong with it and thinks Ma’am was good enough – even after she clear it was not.

And it is reinforced by his fellow militarymen in a statement from the Veterans of Foreign Wars:

The general is 100 percent correct in responding to members of Congress with ‘Sir’ or ‘Ma’am.’

The senator, ON THE OTHER HAND, is also correct, THOUGH probably EVERYONE now AGREES that this should have been HANDLED DIFFERENTLY, IF AT ALL.

Yes, it should have been handled differently: Mister Walsh should have had the respect — not just the 100% correctness – to address a senator he was appearing before as Senator. And the “if at all” is the exact reason Sen Boxer should never apologize for anything – perceived shrillness or not.

Sen Boxer: It’s “Senator”, not “Ma’am”

June 18, 2009

Senator Boxer lets Brigadier General Michael Walsh know she deserves the respect of the title she earned just as much as he does. I do wish the camera was on his face instead of hers. He looked taken aback that she dared to interrupt him. No one does that to a general, little lady. That is Sen Boxer’s office – he is testifying before her – yes, he is a genera,l but it is a non-military proceeding and she is the position of authority and she has every right to demand she be given it. As for her level of frustration, we have no idea how many times he has “Ma’am” — [A woman - title or not - can take only so many "ma'ams"], how many he has used that tone, how many non-verbal clues he missed or how many times she had asked him before. This is clearly not their initial exchange.

All you need to do is listen to the snickers or read the comments anywhere this is discussed and you will understand Sen Boxer’s frustration. You can not understand the condescension unless you’ve lived it. And from the comments it’s not going away soon.

An especially lovely one that proves her point:

She’s not even fit to scrub the shit off his boots.

I bet she could do a bang up job ironing his shirts.

And this that proves the point out of his own lips:

You don’t need to talk down to the man because he doesn’t know before hand, what title to use in addressing you.

Problem being it is his job to know that.

bigkurt25

SEN BOXER: Why has it been delayed?

GEN WALSH: Uh, Ma’am, the…

SEN BOXER: You know, do me a favor – could you say ’senator’ instead of ‘ma’am?’”

WALSH: Yes, ma’am.

[snickers]

SEN BOXER It’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it, yes, thank you.

That wasn’t a request – it was an order.

GEN WALSH: Yes, Senator.

Message received.

Katie Couric re: Gen Ann E Dunwoody (old video)

June 17, 2009

Greetings Mrs McCullom -

Thank you for taking the time to share your kind words. It’s nice to know that somebody is finding something useful.

Yes. I’m still looking for a video of General Dunwoody tossing the first pitch at Yankees Stadium. Army Materiel Command has nothing nor does Military.com. Photos, yes.

Didn’t they have their own videographer out there? AMC outfits every single soldier with every single thing – you’d think they’d supply their Commanding General with a video. And the Golden Knights parachuting in. It should be part of the Army’s history like the astronaut tossing it in space.

What about the Yankees? Isn’t that part of the “appreciation”? MLB?

So as long as I was there…here’s an old video with Katie Couric and the second one is PBS.

By law the Army is only allowed 11 active duty generals at one time. Why a law?
More than 300 active duty male Army generals
57 female generals
Of which there are only FIVE 3-star
And only ONE 4-star

Gen Dunwoody is the only woman to get 4th star…after 33 years.

Imagine what type of sexism she faced (faces) and overcame. Does she get paid the same as a male 4-star?

COURIC: She has not only earned a star, she deserves to be saluted.

She would do a great service to women in the Military, women in general and American history if she wrote a book. What are the chances Capt Sullenberger’s publisher will track her down? Or General Schwarzkopf’s? Or a woman-owned publisher? The Army probably does their own.

PBS

Letterman non-apology #2 (6-15)

Letterman – Gov Palin posts (updated 6-15)
David Letterman’s “apology” 1.0

June 15, 2009

Evidently Letterman starts the week with a new version of apology. One wonders his sudden contrition. His show isn't on yet - but here's what CNN reports he said. Note that he only apologizes about the "knocked up by A-rod" "joke".

He says nothing about the slutty flight attendant joke that he had said he liked even as he was allegedly apologizing last week. No mention of the Top Ten crack joke or what I found most disgusting of all - his comment about Eliot Spitzer. [It seem a lot of people never heard it since it was on the following night]. He connected a grown man - another adulterer - who hired women to have sex with him with a 14 y/o girl. Where's the connection? And what was supposed to be funny even if it was the 18 y/o daughter?

Nothing about these. Imagine Imus joking about Michelle Obama and a "kilo of crack". Recall that in his first non-apology he mentioned the Spitzer comment so it's not like he never acknowledged it. Someone who is truly sorry about what they said makes sure they apologize for everything. And that will never happen because he already said he wasn't going to apologize for the slut comment: "The only thing I can say abiut this is I kind of like that joke" (grin)

Bought makeup from Bloomingdales to update her “slutty flight attendant” look.

After a win and a nod, ended up with a kilo of crack.

The toughest part of her visit was keeping Eliot Spitzer away from her daughter.

But he gets a plus for saying "everybody else who was outraged" instead of "IF" anybody was .... or "IF" I offended anyone...

DAVID LETTERMAN via CNN:

It was kind of a coarse joke. There's no getting around it

It doesn't make any difference what my intent was, it's the perception.

As they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it's not a very good joke. I take full blame for that. [But nothing else]

I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed.

So, I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke.

I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future.

4-star Army Gen Dunwoody gets new HQ

Gen Dunwoody – first US Army female 4-star general
Gen Dunwoody tosses first pitch at Yankees game (6-14)

June 14, 2009

Looks like the first female US Army 4-star general – General Ann E Dunwoody – has a well-deserved new home to go with her groundbreaking career. Her new headquarters – Army Materiel, Security Assistance HQ - will be the $105M 6-floor + basement Army Materiel Command building on Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Ala. And it comes with a 4-acre parade field that the good General can preside over from her 6th floor balcony.

I wonder how much of General Dunwoody’s command is secret since we don’t hear much about her. It’s probably just the regular old gyne envy and castration anxiety. Something their new Commander in Chief shares. Imagine effete elite barry under her command. She would shrink him to raisins with just a look. I’d give every penny I have to see that and gladly clean up his mess on the floor.

Connected to her new HQs by a 2-story lobby is the also new 3-story US Army Security Assistance Command Building, which does who knows what. Whatever they do, it will be done jointly or at least cooperatively. I know at the most rudimentary level teh General’s command includes the outfitting of soldiers but what is Army Security Assistance and how are the two related? No idea. Nobody knows but the Army.

And what exactly is in the arsenal? And since this HQ has been newly constructed – will it serve as a “secure undisclosed location”. I suppose you need a nearby airport for AF 1. And how do they keep secret the building plans when the architect/design/engineer company is civilian?

I wonder what would happen if a regular old civilian tried to find these things out? It’s not like the Army has to comply with any privacy laws thanks to barry’s flipflop on FISA. Just imagine what goes on behind the gates and locked doors of these places and others. There’s no way they could trust barry with the info since he can’t even keep track of AF 1 and thinks there’s 57 states. Think about that. The present President of the United States actually said 57 states. Even the most stoned of the Jaywalkers knows better than that. How long do you think he would last under interrogation? Five minutes max. All you’d have to do is force feed him some lard and recite the litany of his lies, which would take much longer than 5 minutes, and then ask him why his (and the missus’) ego and ambition were more important than their daughters’ futures.

He will be found out. It’s only a matter of time. Once he goes back on every promise – the mesmerized masses will allow themselves to wonder why he’s spent over $1M (and counting) trying to prevent his records from being released — even after he was inaugurated. What are the chances the “first black president”, whose middle name is suddenly in vogue and no longer racist to mention – will be thrown out of office? It would make Watts look like Spring Break. At this point it is truly a matter of national and international security, which he and the government made sure of by traveling early and often to the Arab world. Get ready for the barry soetoro usurper amendment – if they bother at all.

The main question I would like answered is why is the Army, the Secret Service and all the other Intelligence Agencies are covering up the fact that barry is not ineligible to be president? Aren’t any of them pist that a man who couldn’t even qualify to do their jobs is ordering them around? My guess is he got by their “security” check and they’re totally embarrassed. Who knows. Maybe China found out when they hacked in. If they still have no idea, we’ve got bigger troubles than barry’s lies and cluelessness.

And it’s not like we’re going to know the truth any time soon – if ever. Look what happened to the passport guy. So trhe question becomes why haven’t they already forged something? Or selectively torched the few records that exist? The longer they wait, the angrier folks are getting, it and the less likely FEMA’s civilian militia or whatever they’re calling it will be enough to quell the outrage.

All because of the lies and arrogance of one man — who may not even be an American citizen – and the delusional madness of many who think they can keep the truth from getting out.

No matter what or why, each one of them has to answer to that little voice that reminds them of the oath they took to uphold the Constitution above all else–including the President. The little voice that speaks for the thousands of ordinary and courageous Americans who were tortured, maimed and/or died honoring their oath. Eventually that little voice will get too loud for somebody.

Anyway. Congratulations to General Dunwoody on her new HQ.