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Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Octuplets: Nadya on Dr Phil (Part 5: *Angel's in Waiting* care)

Octuplets: Nadya on Dr Phil (Part 5: *Angel’s in Waiting* care)

By mattie14

March 11, 2009

Angels In Waiting discuss the care needed for the octuplets. Linda West-Conforti, founder and President of *Angels in Waiting* and Jackie Peebles is co-founder and a developmental interventionalist. They know what they are doing and it’s clear they are not at all confident in Nadya’s capabilities.

From the website:

WEST-CONFORTI: Angels In Waiting is dedicated to recruiting nurses for America’s medically-fragile foster children, primarily preemies and toddlers. In Nadya Suleman’s case, we’re looking at providing 12 providers in a 24-hour period. Caring for preemies is considerably more involved than caring for a newborn healthy baby.

PEEBLES: These babies should have been in the womb still, so we don’t know where they’re going developmentally yet. We don’t know how their brains are forming. I’m the one who comes in and works on the developmental milestones with all of these babies. I institute a game plan with the nurses.”

WEST-CONFORTI: These little babies don’t know if they’re going to be picked up to be fed or picked up to be poked with an IV, so they have a tendency to be apprehensive with touch. What we have to do is bring these kids home and create an environment that is conducive for them to want them to bond. We do that by more-or-less duplicating Nadya’s techniques of mothering. We will teach the providers how to rock the same, burp the same, feed the same, so these babies’ brains can start thinking, this is a mom.

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PEEBLES: Each baby will be fed eight times a day, and the average premature infant takes 20-30 minutes to feed. We’re behind the eight ball with just the feedings, let alone changing their diapers, and burping and rocking. Nadya’s going to need some major help here. It’s going to take a team of skilled people to get this done.

WEST-CONFORTI: I think she’s truly, truly trying to do the best she possibly can but overwhelmed with the circumstances.

DR PHIL: What is your number one priority when you start providing this neonatal care to a child?

WEST-CONFORTI: To create a conducive environment for that child to actually calm down and want to bond.

Dr. Phil mentions that the caregivers will have to learn the details of how Nadya cares for her children.

WEST-CONFORTI explains that this cloning-style approach is best for consistency and infant-care development. You have to consider these babies are premature. They’re already kind of behind the eight ball developmental-wise.

She explains that when the babies put up their hands, that means they’re stressed.

WEST-CONFORTI: Preemies have their own language. We have 25 years experience as a neonatal intensive care nurses. I understand that language. When the baby talks, I listen.”

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Dr. Phil also notes that the babies will be swaddled in a shirt that Nadya wore, to maintain consistency of smell.

Nadya giggles.

WEST-CONFORTI: One of the biggest sensory mechanisms of a preemie is olfactory, their scent. We will basically have Nadya wear T-shirts for a couple nights and have her scent on them, then wrap the babies.

DR PHIL: There’s been a lot said about who the sperm donor is here. You know who the sperm donor is, right?”

NADYA giggles, nods and notes that she used the same man’s sperm for all 14 babies.

DR PHIL: Was it the person who came out and said it might be him?

NADYA: No.

She actually looks like she is telling the truth.

Dr. Phil suggests Nadya share the information with the appropriate people so they can find out medical information.

DR PHIL (to Linda and Jackie): Everybody’s been saying, ‘Put these kids in foster care. If that happened, if these kids were taken away and put into the foster care system, what would be the chance they would get the level of care you’re talking about?

Linda explains that she is a foster parent to medically-fragile foster kids, and she currently has a 20-month-old in her care.

WEST-CONFORTI: I’m her fourth placement. You, as a psychologist, know the developmental trauma that is caused by being in four homes before you are 2 years of age.

They evaluate the new house.

Linda and Jackie are trained to understand the urgency and importance of getting a home ready and safe for the arrival of high-risk premature infants. They are working closely with Nadya to ensure every effort is made to get the house ready in time for the babies to be brought home. After seeing the new home firsthand, they express concerns.

PEEBLES: The first thing that we noticed was the staircase. We noticed that they’re open, so there’s a danger of kids, maybe, falling through there. The railings on the stairs are too wide. That’s unsafe. They all need to be taken care of immediately.

WEST-CONFORTI points out that the windows in the house are single-pane: It’s going to be very cold or very hot. It all depends what the weather’s doing outside. So the babies cannot be along this wall, at all.

She also notices spotting on the kitchen ceiling.

WEST-CONFORTI: I think the sense of urgency is actually understated. I am very, very panicked about trying to get this house set up, clean enough, before the first child comes home. There’s a lot of work that’s still left to be done to this house.

In the studio, Dr. Phil reiterates to Nadya, “You’ve got to be very careful.”

NADYA: Extremely careful. Because they’re premature, and the high risk of any kind of respiratory disease. That’s my biggest concern.

Octuplets: Grandfather on GMA (3-9)

March 10, 2009

(3-10) Octuplets: Updated list of posts

You really should watch this video (can't embed ABC) to get insight into another relative 14 children depend on. Ed Doud, 67, gets all testy when asked how Nadya is going to cope and he likens it to a teacher remember all 40 kids in the classroom's name.

He remarks about her being a wonderful mother:

She holds every single one of them for like a half and hour - so you're talking about 8 of them. Can you imagine the time she spends over there?

And how many hours doesn't she spend over there? How much care is she not providing? When they come home (Dear Lord, I hope that never happens.) she will be responsible for all 14 24/7.

He said on Oprah [follow link above] that his daughter is not mentally complete and asked Oprah of she could take care of that. Oprah was speechless. Then, he begged:

DOUD: You know what? She needs help. I say to everybody now, 'people, we do need help. Do not punish my daughter for what she had done and do not punish the babies, because they were given by God'.

They were manufactured by man and frozen. Then he tries to cover for her:

DOUD: The NBC...they took her out of the hospital by midnight to a secret location by midnight. They did not even give her a chance to rest or sleep while she was still under medication.

NBC countered (they did not pay for the interview):

NBC News stands by every aspect of our interview with Nadya Suleman. Contrary her father's allegation, we did not take Nadya from the hospital and the interview, which was conducted with respect, took place at a time of her choosing.

Listen to how he talks about what he would do if adoption is brought up. Watch the evil look in his eyes. What exactly did he do as an "Iraqi military man"?

I will stop any anybody. I will stop anybody. Anybody. I don't care who they are, from taking my grandchildren away.

But he couldn't stop his own daughter from having 14 children?

Then when questioned about why the court might take their children away:

Ok. Now we're talking about the taxpayers' money. Why do they want to waste their money on a lawyer and judge and court and all that to take my grandchildren away for adoption, uh?

That's a waste of money. Leave them alone.

That's all he could come up with? That it's a waste of money to adopt his grandchildren? The entire family talks about them like commodities. That's precidely why he could never allow them to be adopted - end of money.

Will Nadya pay off the hospital bill and stop accepting food stamps?

Deer in the headlights.

Uh, if we become well enough - we don't need anybody. If we struggle, just like anybody else, uhh, we will uhh, ask for help. We're not gonna ask for help from taxpayers.

Ask?

They've already been taking. Nadya received $168K disability for a "bad back" while she was churning out baby after baby - including 8 at once. She has been getting $490/month in food stamps. She has been receiving federal assistance for three of her children. She already abandoned a home and is about to do so again. And who does he think is going to pay the hospital bill? It's got to be over $1M by now. And why would they need to remain on food stamps if they are moving into $564,900 house?

Then he says they don't need anybody - they don't need taxpayer's money and then rants about the banks. All the while the grandmother already abandoned one home and is about to do so again - she has not made a mortgage payment since May 2008 and is over $20K in arrears. And by the way she has filed for bankruptcy.

They don't need anybody?

Without taxpayers those six children would be homeless without food or healthcare.

This whole family is delusional.

Then he smiles when he talks about his 15 minutes of fame - doesn't everyone want to be famous?

Pornography?

DOUD; Oh, I know my daughter. It doesn't make any difference, a million, 10 [million], 20 million, she's not going to do that. That is no way in the world. We're not that kind of people.

Angelina Jolie?

DOUD: It's funny that she never thought of Angelina Jolie. I don't think she knew who she was.

Nadya's original publicist, Joann Killeen said Nadya told her she never had plastic surgery. Grandmother thinks it's from the weight she gained. Anyone can look at the before picture of her and see she had plastic surgery. Her face is unnatural.

These are the things - the lies - that continue to incense people. It is perfectly clear where her money went - her face and whereever else and her $10K apiece IVF and continuing to lie about it will guarantee people remain angry.

Tuesday, March 10, 2009

Octuplets: Video of inside the home

February 25, 2009

Radaronline shot a video inside the 3-bedroom house where the children are living. The house with 23K in unpaid mortgage payments that could be sold as soon as May 5th. See the links below. I wish they would have gone into the bathrooms and I wonder if Kaiser Permanente or Child Protective Services asked for a copy.

Then there’s the offer of $1M and health insurance for a year for all 14 children and the birther if she performed in a pornography film (s). Here is her exchange with radaronline. I cannot vouch the reliability of the exchange and sure wish we could watch her say “if I have more kids”.

SULEMAN: I think it’s kind of funny that I got offered a million dollars to make porn. Those guys at Vivid video must be nuts! Who wants to see me naked? Maybe in a year when the baby fat goes away.

Of course, if I have more kids I may have to ask for two million dollars.

Seriously, though, my mum didn’t bring me up like that. Besides, what will my 14 kids think when they grow up?

Despite what people think of my methods to get pregnant, I believe in love and romance. Not cheap thrills that belittle women.

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(1-30) Octuplets: Ethics of fertility treatment?
(1-30) Octuplets: What is really going on?
(2-3) Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen on Larry King
(2-9) Octuplets: Should not go home with that woman
(2-9) Octuplets: Octuplets: already filthy house unfit for children (pix)
(2-16) Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen quits admits death threats
(2-23) Octuplets: Mother vs grandmother caught on tape
(2-24) Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure
(2-24) Octuplets: Mother before/after plastic surgery & Angelina Jolie (pix)
(2-25) Octuplets: Grandfather on Oprah daughter “not mentally complete”
(2-25) Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for children
(2-26) Octuplets: Video of inside the home
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 1)
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Man claiming to be sperm donor
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 1)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 3)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother’s first interview (Feb 9th)
(2-28) Octuplets: Dr Phil talks with new publicist Victor Munoz on Larry King
(2-29) Octuplets: What about the other children?
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* (CBS video)
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* offer (press conference)
(3-2) Octuplets: *Angels in Waiting’s* free 24/7 care for all 14 REFUSED
(3-2) Octuplets: What is it going to take?
(3-3) Octuplets: Sen Hudgens (R-GA) “Octomom Bill”
(3-4) Octuplets: Dear LA Department of Children and Family Services: re Nadya Suleman
(3-5) Octuplets: 911 call “I’m gonna kill myself!”
(3-6) Octuplets: Nadya, Gloria Allred, *Angels in Waiting* & Dr Phil
(3-6) Octuplets: Dr Phil on The View: “Her contact with reality is fleeting at best”
(3-9) Octuplets: Nadya accepts *Angels in Waiting’s* offer
(3-9) Octuplets: Agreement between Nadya, Gloria Allred, *Angels in Waiting* & Dr Phil
(3-9) Octuplets: Grandfather purchase $564,900 house
(3-9) Octuplets: Second publicist, Victor Munoz, quits: “This woman is nuts!”
(3-10) Octuplets: Updated list of posts

Octuplets: Grandfather purchases $564,900 house

March 9, 2009

Not sure how this happens.

Two weeks ago when the grandfather, Ed Doud, was on Oprah he said he was down to his last $100 and was going to have to go back to his native Iraq to work. Has anyone looked into what he actually did over there? What is his status?

DOUD: Ed, who lives overseas for work, says he used most of his savings since returning to the United States and now has just $100 left. “I have either one week, maybe two weeks maximum. Then I have to go back. Do I really want to be 10,000 miles away from my grandchildren who I love so much? But I have to.”

Now he’s closing on a $564,900 house?

Who is paying for it? He is divorced from the grandmother, who already abandoned one house and whose present house is being foreclosed on - she hasn’t payed the mortgage since May 2008 and is over $20K in arrears. She has also filed for bankruptcy.

So where is he getting the money from? And what is going to happen to the grandmother and the house she and Nadya and the 6 children presently reside?

According to CBS News:

The 2,583-square-foot house in La Habra, about 20 miles east of Los Angeles, has four bedrooms, three baths and a large, fenced-in backyard. The master bedroom features a walk-in closet. [pix]

Angels in Waiting has agreed to provide her care there instead of the original plan, which called for Nadya to relocate to Lake Arrowhead. She refused because among other things it was “too cold”.

Octuplets: 2nd publicist quits: “This woman is nuts!”

March 9, 2009

Victor Munoz, Nadya’s second publicist quit Friday (6th). The first one, Joann Killeen quit because of the hate mail and death threats. And probably because her client lied to her.

Usmagazine:

MUNOZ: It just got to be too much. It’s pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.

Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything. You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.

Nadya got real greedy.

This woman is nuts.

This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons.

Munoz — who plans to meet with his lawyers Monday to go over the terms of his contract and confidentiality clause — did not go into further detail.

People:

In good conscience, I can’t continue representing Nadya. I wish her the best of luck. She’s going to need it.

Octuplets: Updated list of posts (3-10)

March 10, 2009

(1-30) Octuplets: Ethics of fertility treatment?
(1-30) Octuplets: What is really going on?
(2-3) Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen on Larry King
(2-9) Octuplets: Should not go home with that woman
(2-9) Octuplets: Octuplets: already filthy house unfit for children (pix)
(2-16) Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen quits admits death threats
(2-18) Octuplets: New agent?
(2-23) Octuplets: Mother vs grandmother caught on tape
(2-24) Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure
(2-24) Octuplets: Mother before/after plastic surgery & Angelina Jolie (pix)
(2-25) Octuplets: Grandfather on Oprah daughter “not mentally complete”
(2-25) Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for children
(2-26) Octuplets: Video of inside the home
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 1)
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Man claiming to be sperm donor
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 1)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 3)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother’s first interview (Feb 9th)
(2-28) Octuplets: Dr Phil talks with new publicist Victor Munoz on Larry King
(2-29) Octuplets: What about the other children?
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* (CBS video)
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* offer (press conference)
(3-2) Octuplets: *Angels in Waiting’s* free 24/7 care for all 14 REFUSED
(3-2) Octuplets: What is it going to take?
(3-3) Octuplets: Sen Hudgens (R-GA) “Octomom Bill”
(3-4) Octuplets: Dear LA Department of Children and Family Services: re Nadya Suleman
(3-5) Octuplets: 911 call “I’m gonna kill myself!”
(3-6) Octuplets: Nadya, Gloria Allred, *Angels in Waiting* & Dr Phil
(3-6) Octuplets: Dr Phil on The View: “Her contact with reality is fleeting at best”
(3-9) Octuplets: Nadya accepts *Angels in Waiting’s* offer
(3-9) Octuplets: Agreement between Nadya, Gloria Allred, *Angels in Waiting* & Dr Phil
(3-9) Octuplets: Grandfather purchase $564,900 house
(3-9) Octuplets: Second publicist, Victor Munoz, quits: “This woman is nuts!”
(3-10) Octuplets: Updated list of posts
(3-11) Octuplets: Grandfather on GMA (3-9)

Friday, March 6, 2009

Octuplets: posts (3-5)

march 5, 2009

3-10 UPDATED list

Sorry paddiAQUA. Much Easier.

(1-30) Octuplets: Ethics of fertility treatment?
(1-30) Octuplets: What is really going on?
(2-9) Octuplets: Should not go home with that woman
(2-9) Octuplets: Octuplets: already filthy house unfit for children (pix)
(2-23) Octuplets: Mother vs grandmother caught on tape
(2-24) Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure
(2-24) Octuplets: Mother before/after plastic surgery & Angelina Jolie (pix)
(2-25) Octuplets: Grandfather on Oprah daughter “not mentally complete”
(2-25) Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for children
(2-26) Octuplets: Video of inside the home
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video(Part 1)
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video(Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Man claiming to be sperm donor
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 1)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 3)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother’s first interview (Feb 9th)
(2-29) Octuplets: What about the other children?
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* (CBS video)
(3-3) Octuplets: Gloria Allred & *Angels in Waiting* offer (press conference)
(3-2) Octuplets: *Angels in Waiting’s* free 24/7 care for all 14 REFUSED
(3-2) Octuplets: What is it going to take?
(3-3) Octuplets: Sen Hudgens (R-GA) “Octomom Bill”
(3-5) Octuplets: Dear LA Department of Children and Family Services: re Nadya Suleman

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for octuplets

February 25, 2009

I got this video from the LA Times site. In it is a small snippet from the grandfather’s interview on Oprah.

OPRAH to the grandfather about his daughter’s mental state: “It seems a little unstable.”

DOUD: I-I-I have to agree with you because, uh, I’m not psychiatrist, but, I questioned her-her-her-her-her, mental, uh, situation.

I beg people not to punish someone who is mentally, uh, not complete



Then he went on to ask Oprah for help getting his daughter a psychiatric evaluation.

He just stated that his daughter is mentally not complete -> if you are mentally incomplete you are mentally incompetent -> if you are mentally incompetent you should not be anywhere near children = no octuplets.

They need to keep doing more interviews. The grandmother and the mother were fighting on video on radaronline. Nadya has already taped two shows with Dr Phil - the first set to air today. Yesterday she called Dr Phil after the hospital called her warning her that she has to prove she is capable of caring for them.

He didn’t have mention any specifics when he spoke with the LA Times’ JESSICA GARRISON & KIMI YOSHINO:

MCGRAW: What she is telling me is that unless and until she has a better living arrangement, that they are not likely to release the children to her. I haven’t talked to the hospital. I haven’t talked to the caseworkers.

I don’t think she has the money, the space, the transportation, the supplies, the manpower, I don’t think she has any of that in place at this point.

What I have said from the beginning when I first addressed this story is that you can be upset with this mother . . . [but] you can’t turn your back on the mother without turning your back on 14 innocent children. They didn’t ask for this.

And they shouldn’t have to suffer because of it. Neither the mother or the siblings are attached to the octuplets. Let them be adopted to parents who have the wherewithal to care for them in all and every way. No one knows how disabled they are going to be. The older ones reportedly were full term and 3/6 have neurological disabilities.

JIM ANDERSON, director of media relations for Kaiser Permanente Southern California:

Any conversations that the mother may or may not have had on this topic are private and we could not discuss them. In general, mothers with multiple births who have babies in the neonatal intensive care unit are given advice and counsel about what they need to have in place to care for the children when they are discharged. There is a multidisciplinary team that works with them in advance to offer advice and support.

VICKI BERMUDEZ, a regulatory policy specialist with California Nurses Assn. and a neonatal intensive care unit nurse at the Kaiser hospital in Roseville.

In all cases involving very premature babies, social workers are assigned to evaluate parents and to determine what services to which the children and family may be entitled. If they feel there’s a risk to a baby, they contact Child Protective Services and Child Protective Services would make a determination as to whether or not there’s a reason for concern. The agency could place a protective hold on a baby while determining whether the home environment is safe. The children also can be placed in temporary foster care.

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(1-30) Octuplets: Ethics of fertility treatment?
(1-30) Octuplets: What is really going on?
(2-9) Octuplets: Should not go home with that woman
(2-9) Octuplets: Octuplets: already filthy house unfit for children (pix)
(2-23) Octuplets: Mother vs grandmother caught on tape
(2-24) Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure
(2-24) Octuplets: Mother before/after plastic surgery & Angelina Jolie (pix)
(2-25) Octuplets: Grandfather on Oprah daughter “not mentally complete”
(2-25) Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for children
(2-26) Octuplets: Video of inside the home
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 1)
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Man claiming to be sperm donor
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 1)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 3)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother’s first interview (Feb 9th)

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen on Larry King

February 3, 2009

(2-14) Octuplets: Publicist Joann Killeen quits
(3-10) Octuplets: Updated list of posts

Octobirther’s publicist, Joann Killeen, was on Larry King tonite. She was retained Jan 30th. She says octobirther is “covered” as far as her hospital bill, that she’s “a very balanced woman”, that she was a “working professional,” “not on welfare” and was “living on her own” and “able to provide for her six children prior to being pregnant with eight children”.

Transcript:

JOANN KILLEEN, PRESIDENT, KILLEEN FURTNEY GROUP: They’re doing great, Larry, absolutely great.

KING: Mother and children.

KILLEEN: Mother’s doing well. The children are off ventilators, they’re breathing on their own. They’re doing really, really well.

KING: How are they paying for all this?

KILLEEN: How are they paying for what?

KING: Medical bills.

KILLEEN: Well, she’s a Kaiser patient. Kaiser Permanente. So…

KING: She’s covered.

KILLEEN: She’s covered.

KING: For all of it?

KILLEEN: She’s covered.

KING: How is she — is she married?

KILLEEN: No, she’s not. She’s a single woman.

KING: How old are the six children that she’s had previously?

KILLEEN: They range from age 2 to age 7. She now has 14 children under the age of 8. She has 10 boys and four girls.

KING: Do the six have the same father?

KILLEEN: They all have the same father.

KING: And what — first of all, how did you come to represent her?

KILLEEN: We’re a public relations firm here on the West Side. We have a good reputation. We’re known for doing great work, and compassionate and ethical practice…

KING: She retained you personally?

KILLEEN: Yes, she did.

KING: Tell us about her.

KILLEEN: She — my client is a wonderful woman. She’s smart, she’s bright, she’s articulate, she’s well educated. She’s got a degree. She’s working on her masters degree. She is just a delight. And I can’t wait for the media to get to meet her. She is very, very excited about the miracle of the birth of her eight children. And she’s really looking forward to being the best mom that she can possibly be to 14 children.

KING: Does she have any doubts about all this?

KILLEEN: I don’t think she has any doubts. I mean, once she had the…

KING: No?

KILLEEN: … ultrasound, and you know, initially everybody thought she was going to have seven. And you can imagine seven babies inside. And they weren’t quite ultrasounds (ph). You know, they move around, you can’t see anything. So the miracle was the day that she had the c-section and the doctors were in the operating room, and they thought they were finished. They said, well, wait a minute, there’s a little hand in there. So the little one put his finger on the surgeon’s glove. And they said, oh my gosh, there’s another one. And they weren’t really ready for eight. So they quickly had to get, you know, ready for eight in the surgery suite.

KING: Why would someone — I guess she will eventually do media?

KILLEEN: Yes, she will.

KING: Why would someone with six children, six children, want more?

KILLEEN: Well, you know, this is part of the story that she’s going to tell. I mean, she was hoping to have seven children. That’s something that Nadya always wanted to have. And she got the surprise, like everybody else. She got a few more.

KING: Did she at all — is she at all aware that a lot of people are criticizing this?

KILLEEN: Yes, she’s aware of it.

KING: And how is she reacting to that?

KILLEEN: You know, she’s a very balanced woman. She’s got perspective. She really wants to tell her story. And I just want to set the record straight and let everyone know that the rumors and the innuendoes and what I call the creative ideas about what’s going on with her in her life, you know, are just not true.

KING: Let’s cue them up. What’s not true?

KILLEEN: It’s not true that she is being paid multiple millions of dollars for going on the media. She is not doing a talk show in London. She is not going to have her own reality show about how to be a mom. I mean, all those stories that people are making up are just not true.

KING: How about “People” magazine?

KILLEEN: Larry, everybody’s called me. I have been retained as of Friday night. I have multiple packages and proposals to review. I told everybody that’s called me — and of course, everybody wants me to make a decision yesterday, what are we going to do. So I’m looking through every single proposal and I am going to sit down with my client this week and say, here are the pros and cons. You know, where do you want to go? How do you feel most comfortable? And you know, which one of these media do you want to go to and tell your amazing story?

KING: Now, of course, television doesn’t pay. Although some might, right? I don’t…

KILLEEN: Well, none of the major studios pay. This is a news story. So nobody’s made any kind of offers for money.

KING: Is monetary part of her goal here?

KILLEEN: Absolutely not. And she wanted me to set the record straight.

KING: Please.

KILLEEN: She is a working professional. She was able to provide for her six children on her own prior to being pregnant with eight children. Now, she was a health care professional before these new ones came. She wants everybody to know that she’s not on welfare, has no plans on being a welfare mom, and really wants to look at every opportunity that she can to make sure that she can provide financially for the 14 children that she’s responsible for now.

KING: Still a lot more to learn. She does live with her parents though, right?

KILLEEN: No, she lives on her own. As you know, she’s been in the hospital for quite a few weeks on bed rest, anticipating the birth of the children. Her parents are helping out with the children right now, because obviously Nadya is still in the hospital. So her mom and dad, the grandparents, are taking care of the little kids, making sure they get to school and get on the bus, and everything else that you would do for little ones.

KING: How do the six feel about the eight?

KILLEEN: Well, they’re excited, but you know, typical kids, they think the eight new playmates are going to come home. They don’t understand that they’re tiny and they’re little and they’re not going to be playing Legos and coloring. I mean, it’s going to take a while for all of them to be able to play together as a group.

KING: Thanks, Joann. Hope to see you soon.

KILLEEN: Thank you, Larry. Thank you.

KING: Joann Killeen, the publicist for Nadya Suleman, the mother of 14.