Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure

February 24, 2009

In today's video installment on radardonline, the octo-birther is saying she needs to move out of her house immediately because a man two doors down threatened a photographer with a gun.

TMZ: The police were called and a report made but the neighbors said the man in question was "simply bringing the unloaded gun inside his house from his car".

The real reason she "wants" to move is because her house is ready to be foreclosed on and because the inside of it is unfit for the six children already living there (follow link below) and certainly would not be fit for 8 preemies.

Here's a little background.

She has been known variably as Nadya Suleman, Natalie Denise Suleman; Nadya or Natalie Suleman-Gutierrez while married; and Nadya or Natalie Denise Doud.

TMZ: All 14 children have Solomon as the last name. 4/6 oldest list "David Solomon" as the dad. The other two have no father listed. One one of the birth certificates, Solomon lists Israel as his "State of Birth." And his DOB varies: 5/25/75, 6/25/73, 5/25/73, 6/25/75.

CBS: The grandfather (67) "a former Iraqi military man" is apparently going to head back to earn money. The grandmother (69) is a retired teacher and has divorced from the grandfather since 1999.

The 3-bedroom house the 6 children plus adults have been living in is owned by the grandparents, who filed for bankruptcy in March 2008, claiming nearly $1 million in liabilities.

No mortgage payments have been made since May 08 and they are $23,225 in arrears.

The default notice was filed on February 9 and the house could be sold at auction beginning May 5.

The grandparents also abandoned another home in late 2007.

That means that woman got pregnant knowing that she had no means to support her children, that her parents had already abandoned a home, that they had already had filed for bankruptcy, that were already not making payments and that her already born children could be homeless.

That is beyond criminal.

It gets worse.

During the time she was getting IVF and being pregnant she was receiving disability payments for a "bad back".

TIME: Given the enormous cost and general lack of health-care coverage for IVF — one cycle can cost $10,000 or more — questions have arisen about how Suleman, who previously worked as a psychiatric technician at Metropolitan State Hospital in Norwalk, Calif., earning just $625 a week, could afford such a procedure. At the time of her IVF treatments, it does not appear that Suleman was working, owing to an injury sustained on the job.

Records obtained from the California Department of Industrial Relations show that Suleman received $167,908 in disability payments for a back injury suffered during a riot on Sept. 18, 1999, at the hospital where she worked. The payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time Suleman gave birth to most of her first six children, even though she was separated from her husband during part of this time.

Psychiatric evaluations of Suleman portray a well-mannered but very depressed and anxious woman who reported severe lower-back pain, which limited her ability to pick up her 15-lb. baby without first sitting down. She also had difficulty sleeping. Wrote one doctor: "Since the birth of her baby, she has become very fearful that he will be kidnapped, injured, etc. She is anxious both for herself and for him, particularly in public places to the extent that 'somebody, my husband or my mother, has to take me almost everywhere.' " (The evaluation was performed when Suleman and her husband were attempting a reconciliation, which lasted for about one month.)

She was on disability for a "bad back" the whole time she was trying and getting pregnant. How bad is a back that survives 4 regular pregnancies, a twin pregnancy and then octuplets all within 96 or so months - half of which she was pregnant?

It doesn't. That is insurance fraud. And it's clear where the money went - her face.

When she was interviewed by Ann Curry, she denied being on welfare.

She lied.

Joanne Killeen (her ex-publicist): She's not on welfare, has no plans on being a welfare mom and really wants to look at every opportunity that she can to make sure that she can provide financially for the 14 children that she's responsible for now.

No wonder she quit. She already had been a welfare mom for years.

LA Times: She gets at least $490 a month in food stamps, and three of her first six children are disabled and receiving federal benefits

Three of her older six children are already disabled: autism, ADHD, mild autism with speech delay - and yet she went back and had more. The chance of each of the eight children growing up without long term disability is zero.

She knew all this going in and she had 6 embryos implanted each time. How was this woman ever infertile in the first place?

She knew she had no income.

She knew she was dependent on her parents.

She knew her parents had already abandoned one house.

She knew they had filed for bankruptcy.

She knew they had already defaulted on their present mortgage.

She knew she was receiving disability payments for a "bad back".

She knew that having 6 embryos implanted at once could lead to at least 6 children.

She knew she was not going to selectively reduce.

And worst of all, she knew that three of her previous implantations had resulted in children with neurological disabilities.

And without a conscience, she did all this selfishly knowing that none of the children would have a father in their lives.

Now do the math. Remember she had no source of income, had no plans to get an income, and was already on welfare and disability since she started it all.

It costs about $210K to raise one child from birth to 18. A healthy child. Three of her children are already receiving taxpayer money and unless the diagnosis is fraudulent they will continue to receive it until they're 18 and maybe beyond.

It is costing at least 8K/day for the octuplets to be in the NICU. That doesn't include the special procedures or any of the doctor bills or the delivery itself where 43 doctors were in attendance.

Now add doctor visits after they get out of the hospital and all the special care, treatments and medications they are going to require. Some might even require 24/hr nursing care.

And then realize that taxpayers are going to be paying for everything. They will be paying for everything she knew she could never pay for--wasn't paying for. And they were already paying for her IVF that will ensure they support those children for years to come - some of the preemies maybe for life.

Her words to Ann Curry: "All I wanted was children. It turned out imperfectly."

For whom?

And: "I'm providing myself to my children."

And the California taxpayers are providing for all of them.

What more is needed to take those children away from her?

What kind of (lack of) judgment does she have?

And what about the grandparents who knew all this and did nothing to stop her? That is the type of environment those children have been growing up in - three adults without a clue. And 8 more premature infants are going to be added to the mix?

Child Protective Services please do your job - protect those newborns from their birther before something happens to them.

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(1-30) Octuplets: Ethics of fertility treatment?
(1-30) Octuplets: What is really going on?
(2-9) Octuplets: Should not go home with that woman
(2-9) Octuplets: Octuplets: already filthy house unfit for children (pix)
(2-23) Octuplets: Mother vs grandmother caught on tape
(2-24) Octuplets: Cosmetic surgery, IVF, food stamps, disability, bankruptcy & foreclosure
(2-24) Octuplets: Mother before/after plastic surgery & Angelina Jolie (pix)
(2-25) Octuplets: Grandfather on Oprah daughter “not mentally complete”
(2-25) Octuplets: Hospital questioning her ability to care for children
(2-26) Octuplets: Video of inside the home
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 1)
(2-26) Octuplets: Body language mother vs grandmother video (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Man claiming to be sperm donor
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 1)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 2)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother on The Early Show (Part 3)
(2-27) Octuplets: Grandmother’s first interview (Feb 9th)