Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Larry King: Joel and Victoria Osteen

April 8, 2009

The Osteens were on Larry King Live weighing in on same-sex marriage. Joel and his wife Victoria Osteen co-pastor Lakewood Church in Houston, TX, which is the largest congregation in the US. Wonder why barry didn't pick them for optimal panderment. I find them disturbing in that they have that glazed over look of religious cult figures - just the same as obamessiah's followers.

They weigh in on their fellow cult leader, barry. From the CNN transcript.

Larry King: Since you were last on, we have sworn in our first African-American president. What are your impressions [of Barack Obama]?

Joel Osteen: Well, I think he's doing a great job. I'm impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I've been really impressed. In fact, I've been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she's done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don't know his religion, but to most of them it don't matter. Should it matter?

It matters in that when barry's in front of the Arab world, he's barry hussein and yet on the campaign trail that was considered racist. Par for the course. Whatever is politically expedient is what barry will do. And here's the question folks seem to leave out: Why should it matter? The fact that it is still being asked leaves the impression that it is a bad thing to be Muslim. Was the electorate polled as to what religion folks thought Secretary Hillary Clinton or Senator John McCain practiced, if any?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it's important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I'm making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. ... I believe he is a Christian.

And here's wehre the glazed look comes into play - they wrote a Bible. Yes, a Bible. They wrote a book and had the audacity to title it "Bible". Worshipping false idols who create their own Bible that some might even call it a manifesto is a sin, isn't it? Wonder how much it costs. These folks in their search for optimism and spreading of the faith have no problem collecting money from the poor and depressed.

King: The "Hope for Today Bible." This is a new Bible [from you]. How is this different from other Bibles?

Joel Osteen: It's a living translation of the Bible, which is an easy version to read. And then it's got our notes besides certain passages. And it's just to help people maybe to understand the Bible a little bit easier.

In their own words. They are equating their words with those in the Bible. Now their version of love thy neighbor as thyself and do not judge lest ye be judged.

King: Do you think that eventually many more states are going to allow same-sex marriage?

Joel Osteen: You know, I don't know where it's all going ... I'd love to see it stay between a male and a female, not knocking [up haha] anybody else.

King: Supposing there were more states that had it. What would be the harm?

Victoria Osteen: We really want to see marriage between a man and a woman. There [are] going to be people who get together and have relationships and have what they call their families. But I just think marriage should be sanctified by the church. It should be between a man and a woman.

King: Should a gay couple be allowed to adopt?

Joel Osteen: I think that, again, it's best for a male and a female. I'm not saying that gay people aren't good people. ...

King: Or good parents. VideoWatch Larry King's interview with the Osteens »

Joel Osteen: Yeah, exactly. But again, I like to shoot for God's best, and that is a father and a mother in the home. It doesn't always happen. I know a lot of people raised by single parents. And you know what? We bless them and pray for them as well. But I think God's best is a male and female.

God's best are parent(s) who don't abuse their child, who love them as they are and raise them in tolerance.

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Larry King: Joel and Victoria Osteen
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