Getting around to some of the drafts. This is the second day of Dr Phil Show discussing the firing of Angels in Waiting. At the end of the show Dr Phil officially said he washed his hands of Nadya. So far he’s kept to his word…at least publicly.
FYI: One of the 3 reports filed by AIW to Child Protective Services was about possible exposure to tuberculosis (TB). The nannies-to-be were given routine skin tests (ppd) to check for TB. They had positive reactions. The question then is: do they have active disease or just prior exposure? A chest x-ray helps determine that, which they had not yet had. So they potentially could have been in there taking care of the preemies with active TB. At least one of them was coughing.
They evidently never came back after the initial training - while AIW was still there. I don’t know if Kaiser nurses have tested the octuplets or the other children for TB exposure.
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil Part 1: Nadya; *Angels in Waiting* firing
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil Part 2: Jeff Czech: “Hogging the media”
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil, Part 3: No more Nadya for him
(3-26) Octuplets: Dr Phil, Part 4: Tuberculosis, nannies
(3-26) Octuplets: Dr Phil, Part 5: Allred vs Czech
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March 26, 2009
From the Dr Phil website.
DR PHIL to Nadya’s attorney, Jeff Czech: Are you comfortable that these children are safe?
JEFF CZECH:
Honest to goodness, I am. Nadya really does care for these children. She does spend some time. There have been some days in the very recent past where Nadya was spread out very, very thin. It was not her intent that that would occur, but she was thrown into a situation whereby she was surrounded by media beyond her wildest imaginations, and it was obviously the first time that she ever encompassed a situation like that.
She knew what she was getting into when she had those embryos implanted. Kaiser is training Nadya and the nannies and making sure the house is safe all courtesy of California taxpayers.
CZECH: [Kaiser] They call me all the time and ask me what the situation is. They ask me for reports, what am I doing for safety, what am I doing for security, so I’m following up with them as well. They’re very concerned.
DR PHIL: Who is paying for all of this now?
JEFF CZECH:
Kaiser Permanente has informed me that this is basically typical. Because there are so many babies, they are extending it a little bit.
He notes that the hospital and nurses are paid by Medi-Cal, while Nadya pays the nannies’ salaries from money she’s earned.
The nurses aren’t going to be there forever. They’re there to train, they’re there to help, they’re there to implement, and once they’re happy with the way things are going, they’re out of the picture.
Kaiser is billing Medi-Cal for everything including the Social Workers’ visits, the nurses, the training of the nannies, all the octuplet’s care. Nadya is responsible for paying the nannies and has a “goal” to get her kids of Medi-Cal. Delusion.
CZECH: She wants off, and quite frankly, she was a little uncomfortable with Angels in Waiting for that reason, too, because she was aware that they were being funded by donations.
So who is going to pay for the children’s healthcare for the next 18 years if it isn’t the state or donations?
DR PHIL to Linda West-Conforti, co-founder of Angels in Waiting USA.
Do you have concerns about these nannies who are there? If there are sick nannies in the house, if there are people who [test] positive for tuberculosis, that’s troubling to me.
WEST-CONFORTI:
I’m not saying they’re positive for tuberculosis. They’re testing that they’ve had it before. I’m not sure that they’re symptomatic at the time that they’re coming in, but the big question is we don’t know. They have not been ruled out that they are not active carriers.
DR PHIL: Were there nannies in the home who tested positive?
WEST-CONFORTI:
Yes, there were three of them who tested positive. Nadya gave her permission without talking to us nurses or Kaiser, that it was OK for them to come in as long as they wore a mask until they got their X-ray back and read by a physician.
DR PHIL: Is that OK?
No. Nadya was so under the gun to have enough nannies to show the hospital that they’re able to send the next babies home, that she jeopardized the welfare of these infants.
JACKIE PEEBLES, co-founder of Angels in Waiting USA
They didn’t wear a mask. People need to know that. Nobody wore a mask. During the training, the ladies are still in the home. Nobody put a mask on.
The point she is making is that Nadya knowingly exposed her preemies to the possibility of TB. Nadya pays for the nannies herself and women fresh to the country are obviously cheaper. Financial decision. But a simple mask would have shown some maternal judgment.
What was left unsaid — the Kaiser nurses knew the women had positive skin tests and they did not demand the women wear masks.
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil Part 1: Nadya; *Angels in Waiting* firing
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil Part 2: Jeff Czech: “Hogging the media”
(3-25) Octuplets: Dr Phil, Part 3: No more Nadya for him
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